Elbow pain associated with Tricep work

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Originally Posted by Papa Het

btufts: Very interesting idea you have, I may give it a go. I have been thinking of going and getting a one sized smaller neopren elbow sleeve to wear and see how that feels.

Hosehead: Did you find ART to be effective?

Prae: I've taken 3-4 weeks stretches off while following a regular routine of Naproxan and ice

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I found it to be very effective on my badly otrn hamstrings in the past but I can't honestly give it a thumbs up or down for tendonitis. I have tendonitits in my right elbow/bicep (the bursitis is in the left) and I don't think it has worked as well as it could because my therapist says bodubuilders/weightlifters don't have much success with that particular injury. What he means is that we won't take the necessary time off to let ART and rest do the trick. Also I think because the connective tissue in that area gets worked all the time , as opposed to my hamstrings for instance. I gave it about 10 sessions an finally said **** it I need to do something else. I think in time ART along with a month or two rest , RICE it will come around. But typically it will go on and on and on. So yes, ART should work but it didn't for me - because of me. But I'm ****ing retarded.

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Originally Posted by Hosehead

I found it to be very effective on my badly otrn hamstrings in the past but I can't honestly give it a thumbs up or down for tendonitis. I have tendonitits in my right elbow/bicep (the bursitis is in the left) and I don't think it has worked as well as it could because my therapist says bodubuilders/weightlifters don't have much success with that particular injury. What he means is that we won't take the necessary time off to let ART and rest do the trick. Also I think because the connective tissue in that area gets worked all the time , as opposed to my hamstrings for instance. I gave it about 10 sessions an finally said **** it I need to do something else. I think in time ART along with a month or two rest , RICE it will come around. But typically it will go on and on and on. So yes, ART should work but it didn't for me - because of me. But I'm ****ing retarded.

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I've tried the tensor bands too. They don't constrict enough for how we train. During your recovery process I would recommend getting the powerlifting straps from your local supplement store and wrapping the shit out the whole strand from mid forearms right up most of your arm so you can hardly move the joint during pressing exercises. This way drastically took the pain away from me and put more focus on other muscle groups. This way I find Holds things tightly enough that the tendon isnt irritated by the stress loaded along the chain of muscles in that arm.

Same deal with the miniscus tear I had in my right knee. wrapped the hell out of it from mid shin to mid femur tightly and I could squat full range again with minimal inflammation during training. Extensions were still painful however

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Originally Posted by btufts

Same deal with the miniscus tear I had in my right knee. wrapped the hell out of it from mid shin to mid femur tightly and I could squat full range again with minimal inflammation during training. Extensions were still painful however

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About your meniscus tear :
1) how bad was it ? I am told mine is either partial or fully torn - I see a surgeon on May 31st to go over my MRI
2) how long did it take to heal ?
3) did you require surgery ?
4) what supplements/gear/ancillaries did you take to help with the healing process ?
5) how did you do it ?
6) do you train your legs differently now ?
7) are wraps just going to mask my injury or can they spare my meniscus in some way while I build my quads back up ? Never used wraps and I don't use a belt under 425 lbs.

Some history on mine - near as I can figure I tore it slipping in the bathtub OR possibly twisting at the top/lock out on leg extensions ( I go quite heavy - 350lbs). Whatever I did it wasn't painfull enough to where I knew when it happened. That was late January of this year. Took 2 months off of leg training. 4 weeks back in and I was squatting (just to parallel) 365 x 8 easily until I went too deep and felt it go. That was first week of May. So obviously I wasn't healed 100%. This time I hope I can convince the doctor that I need surgery but in the event I don't get it I need to do it right this time and not push things too much. Any advice you can offer would be great. My legs have lost about 1.5 inches since January.

Edit : sorry to the OP for the post hijacking

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Originally Posted by Hosehead

About your meniscus tear :
1) how bad was it ? I am told mine is either partial or fully torn - I see a surgeon on May 31st to go over my MRI
2) how long did it take to heal ?
3) did you require surgery ?
4) what supplements/gear/ancillaries did you take to help with the healing process ?
5) how did you do it ?
6) do you train your legs differently now ?
7) are wraps just going to mask my injury or can they spare my meniscus in some way while I build my quads back up ? Never used wraps and I don't use a belt under 425 lbs.

Some history on mine - near as I can figure I tore it slipping in the bathtub OR possibly twisting at the top/lock out on leg extensions ( I go quite heavy - 350lbs). Whatever I did it wasn't painfull enough to where I knew when it happened. That was late January of this year. Took 2 months off of leg training. 4 weeks back in and I was squatting (just to parallel) 365 x 8 easily until I went too deep and felt it go. That was first week of May. So obviously I wasn't healed 100%. This time I hope I can convince the doctor that I need surgery but in the event I don't get it I need to do it right this time and not push things too much. Any advice you can offer would be great. My legs have lost about 1.5 inches since January.

Edit : sorry to the OP for the post hijacking

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I'm not quite sure to this day how it initially happened. It was after nationals and I blew up after, creating a ton of extra stress on my knees. Miniscus tears are extremely common, especially in bodybuilders. Most causes is due to what lies below the knee: the feet. the miniscus tendon connected the medial side of the tibia underneath the knee cap. Most of the time someone with a miniscus tear has some sort of flat foot. a fallen arch on the medial side of the food. This imbalance put extra pressure on the whole medial length of that leg and extra stretch on the tendon. If you look at the tendon and the fascia tissue that surround the muscle its like a plastic bag. Its not elastic like the muscle inside but more so like a plastic bag in the sense that it can be slowly stretched over time but any radical move can easily tear it. So with the added stress put on the medial line of the leg due to a fallen arch, this puts excess stretch continuously on the tendon under the knee cap. And in my case putting added weight on top of that only worsens the stretch. Most of the time the tear happens when pressure is applied to the food and pronation of the knee follows, causing now a stretch and a rotation the already worn tendon which may cause an partial or full tear. Mine was just a partial tear I believe, i never really went to see a doctor but i couldnt walk on the leg most of the time for about 3 months. But I of course kept training and wrapping the hell out of it and taking aleve before workouts. At the time I believe I was on cycle taking test and deca. The deca more than likely masked the amount of pain of the injury but it had healed enough within 3 months after continuously wrapping it tightly every workout and most days that It was irritated. It still bother me sometimes but I have a few methods of activating the tiny muscles on the medial side of my foot to strengthen that side and it has helped. Orthodics might be in your near future but i suspect you wear a lot of flat foot, nikes dunks, skater shoes at some point in time. I recommend if your going to keep training on it to wrap it tightly and avoid movements that cause discomfort and more than likely you have a tight medial hamstring. Focus on stretching the whole Posterior chain (see my theory on training the posterior chain for more details) from the hips down. So isolate the issue being your knee on the medial side. This means theres too much tension on the inside hamstring. by pronating your foot, flexing your toes and hinging at the hip you can stretch this side. Also I have a method for taping your foot to elevate the medial side thus taking strain of the whole medial side of your leg and easing tension on the miniscus. Its also again almost 4 am and I'm probably rambling on so use what information you can from the above and go get a pair of orthodics made up, show them this post and see how accurate I am to the prognosis.

Hope this helps,

B

Thanks bro - lots to swallow but you certainly were not rambling. Makes sense to me.

Sweet! Good to hear haha stretch the medial side of the whole leg that is bothering you and stretch out the quadriceps that should help