Kirkland nonfat plain Greek Yogurt?

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Originally Posted by Praetorian

I eat full fat Greek yogurt throughout my diet...generally only stop a few weeks out.
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Exactly, there shouldn't really be foods that are off limits. Only foods that don't fit you're diet. You follow keto, therefore you likely won't have source or silhouette yogurt on your diet - but you don't avoid it completely. Most extremists eliminate all forms of even whey protein for over a month before the show. Or eliminate all fruit, etc etc. I understand if you follow keto you probably aren't eating 10 bananas a day - but the same person eliminating whey, yogurt, and apples, will still consume sweet potatoes, rice, and dextrose.

I don't believe in cutting things from your diet that you enjoy. If you want cream in your morning coffee and that's your thing, then have it! Whatever makes things easier is the way to go. Bodybuilding is not a contest to see who can suffer the most - or the ones who make it hardest wins. If you want to pick a time to suffer, save it for the squat rack- make those muscles hurt!

I start my diet with carbs and gradually lower them and will drop into ketosis if necessary. I dont start day one keto because it isnt necessary. Many people assume if you utilize keto its all or nothing but its not that simple. Most times i make it to 6 weeks out before dropping all carbs...it really depends on how the body responds. I always have cream in my coffee and I also tend to keep berries in my morning meal right through. I dont see the need to eliminate whey not even a week out. I agree on the suffering part as i see guys not even eating spices or sodium thats just nuts and not efficient nor effective anyway. The training is the same idea...tough balls to the wall super intensity training is for off season...precontest there is little need for that...too many guys waste the off season and then go gung ho pre-contest killing themselves not smart. If your pre-contest prep starts 16 weeks out you are 8 months too late!

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Originally Posted by Praetorian

I start my diet with carbs and gradually lower them and will drop into ketosis if necessary. I dont start day one keto because it isnt necessary. Many people assume if you utilize keto its all or nothing but its not that simple. Most times i make it to 6 weeks out before dropping all carbs...it really depends on how the body responds. I always have cream in my coffee and I also tend to keep berries in my morning meal right through. I dont see the need to eliminate whey not even a week out. I agree on the suffering part as i see guys not even eating spices or sodium thats just nuts and not efficient nor effective anyway. The training is the same idea...tough balls to the wall super intensity training is for off season...precontest there is little need for that...too many guys waste the off season and then go gung ho pre-contest killing themselves not smart. If your pre-contest prep starts 16 weeks out you are 8 months too late!

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Wow, that is such an interesting perspective, cool! So, what would make you drop into ketosis then if necessary? You make it sound like you don't always use it. What circumstances for you would make you go to keto?

-Primal

In all my preps I've always used keto it is just a matter of timing. Your body doesn't always respond the same way year over year so you cannot think that the diet you did last year will work exactly the same as this year. The reason i start all my clients on carbs is to get an understanding of their level of insulin resistance...then I can adjust the diet specifically for them..ie more carbs or less or drop into ketosis faster. Also you need to understand how keto works because if you don't you will run into situations where people say things like...i have no energy, i feel light headed, I have no strength, i cant get a pump..blah blah blah...all that is because of a total lack of understanding of how and why the body uses ketones and essential fatty acids for fuel....its based on fear and ignorance.
This is the reason why so many people who attempt to use keto fail...they dont undestand the body and the fuel sources and how they all work. This is also the reason why i encourage my clients to ask questions so that they can understand why they are doing certain things....like why low intensity cardio, why you should never do steady state cardio, what is HIIT cardio and when do you use it, why does a keto diet spare muscle much better then a low card low fat diet, why and when to use a refeed meal, when to drop carbs, what carbs to use and when, etc

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Wow you system for dieting sounds intricate Prae! Just wondering, have you ever had a client who had diabetes? So their body wouldn't accept the insulin, I assume this would be one of the only diets (keto) that would work for people who want to gain muscle but can't use carbs. Would this be the only way? Just me being curious.

-Primal

Yes I have worked with diabetics successfully. Not sure what you mean by "wouldn't accept the insulin". There are two primary forms of diabetes type 1 and type 2 to keep things simple. Type one is generally genetic and basically means the individuals pancreas does not produce insulin or enough insulin to shuttle glucose out of the bloodstream. Type 2 diabetes means that the individual is basically insulin resistant meaning it takes more and more insulin to the job than what normally is necessary because the cells have become "resistant" to the effect of insulin. In type 2 diabetes the individual may be using metformin or some other type of medication to help sensitize the cells to insulin's effect...hence less is needed. Both groups can still eat carbs etc but need to monitor blood glucose levels and use either insulin or met etc to control glucose levels. Just because you are diabetic doesn't mean you cant eat carbs it only means you need to monitor blood levels and preferably choose carbs a bit more wisely. The diabetic should be aware of DKA (diabetic ketoacidosis) but with proper insulin usage this is not usually a problem.

My program isnt that complicated it may just sound like it is...once you understand how and why the body uses certain energy sources it becomes quite simple.



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Sorry about that, I was referring to type 1 diabetes. Probably should have worded what I said a bit better too...

-Primal