Decided against the Palumbo diet.

[tiramisu]

.... Let's not get too ruffled. Keto diets aren't for everyone and either are carbs.

My wife an I continue to be good examples, she is lifetime skinny on massive carbohydrates, predominantly pasta and bread.

I on the other hand gained 30 pounds within a year of eating her cooking when we married. She is a skinny italian and I am a thick european.

I am lean and energtic on a diet heavily weighted on meat and vegetables with a tiny bit of complex carbs and 0 sugar.

She feels tired and has indigestion when she attempts to eat high protein low carbohydrate.

... it took us a while to work this out but we now generally eat different things at supper when we eat together and our meals through the day are always different.

[Maria]

Everyone responds differently to different diets. You have to find the best one for you and be consistent!

[rickyboy36]

Everyone responds differently to different diets. You have to find the best one for you and be consistent!

I agree for sure.Its just that some people put down the diet without even trying it.And the ones who did try,probably didnt even go long enough.There are some that "need" carbs--true ...like an ecto.But just because it doesnt work for you doesnt mean others should not attempt it.

Anyways,Im done with this thread,do whatever yo want bro..

[Praetorian]

I agree for sure.Its just that some people put down the diet without even trying it.And the ones who did try,probably didnt even go long enough.There are some that "need" carbs--true ...like an ecto.But just because it doesnt work for you doesnt mean others should not attempt it.

Anyways,Im done with this thread,do whatever yo want bro..

This is quite accurate...its like comparing apples to oranges....if you truly want to compare both diets you have to run both multiple times and run them correctly. The keto diet is basically derived from the paleolithic diet of our ancestors. The human body however hasnt evolved as quickly in relation to the industrial machine and agriculture. The human body does not digest or utilize processed carbohydrate efficiently and this can be seen in many instances of increased type 2 diabetes and obesity in NA. Not to mention liver and cardiac issues from cholesterol problems associated with high intake of carbohydrate. The human body runs perfectly on protein, fats, nuts, seeds, legumes, etc...basically a foraging diet.
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[natenator]

smart man to avoid the palumbo diet, why give up carbs when u don't have too.

that is actually a pretty ignorant thing to say. Back up your opinion at the very least.

I think everyone on this site can say and you would have to agree yourself that you are a genetic anomaly as you could probably eat mcpukes and still maintain a semi lean physique. We're not all as blessed as you are.

[devo09]

Wow, lol, it's a little ridiculous that anytime someone is going to diet the automatic response from 99% of people on this board is "KETO DIET!" without realizing that everyones metabolic/calorie demands (and goals) are different

The human body does not digest or utilize processed carbohydrate efficiently and this can be seen in many instances of increased type 2 diabetes and obesity in NA.

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The reason for metabolic derangements is not from refined carbohydrate (or carbs at all) it is a result of caloric intake imbalances from a lack of physical activity combined with an overabundance of food. This imbalance leads to obesity which THEN causes a plethora of problems

Not to mention liver and cardiac issues from cholesterol problems associated with high intake of carbohydrate. The human body runs perfectly on protein, fats, nuts, seeds, legumes, etc...basically a foraging diet.
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Do you have studies showing that cholesterol problems/etc are a result of carbohydrate? And do these studies show that carbohydrates caused illness/deficiences?

[Ritch]

Good post! ^^^ This keto love is reminding me of trainers like Mentzer who no matter what will always give you the same workout... Or the swiss ball trainer, the kettel bell trainer...

[tex]

Bro..im not calling him out...wtf are you talking about.Ive never disputed his "looks"..im disputing the fact that he is saying that keto is no good calling chalin "smart" by choosing a carb diet.Kinda makes others who follow the keto diet feel "stupid.Why dont you tell Prae this??Why dont you tell OTHER PROS who have used this diet to get into contest shape.Oh i guess its because im not at a pro level..i see..

And by the way,it doesnt mean your a pro that you know everything.Im not saying Greg doesnt know anything,im just saying.Sometimes its just genetics and hard work that bring you up there..not knowledge.Listening to you though we have to Bow down to all national bodybuilders and not dispute their advice

i dont know if this is a cultural barrier type thing but you come off like a real cockbiter.....how does my comment make you feel stupid? Im not understanding where all of this is coming from......perhaps your mommy and daddy didnt show you enough love when you were a kid......why dont you go crawl back under the bridge you came from.....and have a nice day!

[O-Train]

This is looking to be a circular argument. I will say that I personally like a lot of carbs in my diet. I respond well to carbs and I can diet down to low bf% with high carbs etc. So that is my personal choice.

I'm suprised no one has said anything about the workout program. If it were me trying to diet down I would scale things back a bit. With the ephedrine thrown in the mix you may end up feeling tired/overtrained and be more likely to get sick/injured.

[JacktheThriller]

[QUOTE=devo09;345255]Wow, lol, it's a little ridiculous that anytime someone is going to diet the automatic response from 99% of people on this board is "KETO DIET!" without realizing that everyones metabolic/calorie demands (and goals) are different

i think this speaks for the strength and positive results most people on the board have experienced with this diet

no
The reason for metabolic derangements is not from refined carbohydrate (or carbs at all) it is a result of caloric intake imbalances from a lack of physical activity combined with an overabundance of food. This imbalance leads to obesity which THEN causes a plethora of problems

well the processed carbohydrate lacks many nutrients and fibre contained in non-processed, ex brown vs white bread, this is a big contributer to obesity because you want to eat more from the lack of fibre and feeling of fullness. without that fibre and nutrients the frequency of natural hunger cycle increases and you contantly feel deprived.