Dieting down an Insulin Dependent Diabetic

[fit226]

yeah, you know what. I just deal with it..i have been like this since age 2....i really don't know any different other then what i see other people do..Yes it would be nice to go out and not have to worry about bringing my needle, my tester, making sure i combat everything i eat with insulin...somedays it becomes a chore but it's either i take care of it now and deal with it now or i deal with the major complications that can arise later. I'll admit i was a terrible diabetic in my younger years and a little bit is starting to catch up to me but overall for 33 years of diabetes i am still surviving..

[Praetorian]

As fit says the key is to manage sugar levels and by eliminating starches in the diet this is much easier. I have never worked directly with a diabetic competitor so I cannot speak from experience however I would have to assume a keto diet would be very effective as it does manage insulin levels quite well and I think speaking with someone such as fit who has lived the experience is very valuable...great posts!
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[Andre Gregoire]

Fit226 first I want to congratulate you on attaining a great physique that would make most people envious despite your diabetes. That's very admirable. Most people without diabetes will never come close to looking like that.

Also, thanks for taking the time to share your experience here. I really appreciate it, it's great to find a diabetic with experience, I have discussed this with prep coaches before but at best it's always just speculation, it's been great to get your first hand experience.

I will save this thread and may come back to ask other questions. Hopefully, other diabetics will see it and it can help them. Also, I occasionally see diabetics on other board asking questions so I might point them to this thread.

[fit226]

hey no problem brother....i just remember being in my teens trying to get information regarding bodybuilding and diabetes. I even sent snail mail to a pro bodybuilder (can't remember his name at the moment) to ask questions with no reply and I always said to myself i would help out as much as i can down the road after not getting my questions answered.

So your more then welcome.

[natenator]

hey no problem brother....i just remember being in my teens trying to get information regarding bodybuilding and diabetes. I even sent snail mail to a pro bodybuilder (can't remember his name at the moment) to ask questions with no reply and I always said to myself i would help out as much as i can down the road after not getting my questions answered.

So your more then welcome.

another reason why you rock!

[fit226]

another reason why you rock!

thanks my friend!...The name just came to me too about the pro with diabetes..Tim Belknap...boy was he shredded in the day!

[Andre Gregoire]

Tim Belknap just did an interview with Dave Palumbo on Heavy Muscle Radio, he doesn't really go into details about how he dieted down but it's nice to hear his perspective.

http://www.rxmuscle.com/hmr-radio-sh...ducer-hmr.html

He feels he got most of his size from insulin and some oral AAS.

[shainesboostin]

Tim Belknap just did an interview with Dave Palumbo on Heavy Muscle Radio, he doesn't really go into details about how he dieted down but it's nice to hear his perspective.

http://www.rxmuscle.com/hmr-radio-sh...ducer-hmr.html

He feels he got most of his size from insulin and some oral AAS.

^^^See what I mean, he got "most of his size from INSULIN"!!! Yet, people say, raising my basal would be stupid?

[cog]

IIRC,Tim Belknap is the guy that turned people on to the idea that insulin could be used.

[Andre Gregoire]

^^^See what I mean, he got "most of his size from INSULIN"!!! Yet, people say, raising my basal would be stupid?

Listen to the interview first before commenting, you have it all wrong increasing your basal slin is a bad idea. I gave you good advice but you skipped over it so here it is again:

You want better skeletal muscle insulin sensitivity, that's what you should aim for instead of using more insulin. Look up r-ALA, chromium, Cinnamon, magnesium... beware it will affect your insulin requirements so test blood and adjust accordingly.

I think its dumb to raise basal insulin levels so I can't tell you why they do it. It's probably not because they are dumb, they have insulin resistance because of big dosages of AAS, too much food intake and mostly because of HGH.

You want to get big, lift heavier weights keep progressing as much as possible as often as possible. Do the same thing in the kitchen, keep progressing to more and more food and protein, do it too fast and you will get fat, too slow and you don't grow. At this point you will have to raise insulin to match food intake.

You will get more out of testosterone then you will out of slin in my opinion.