1st cycle... just wanna see what you think...

[Marc]

Hi im new to this site and was recommended here by a friend of mine.

I am 21, been training seriously for 3 years now and have done my research into gear. I am planning to run 500mg of Test Cyp for 12 weeks while at the same time running Clen for 8 weeks (2 weeks on 2 weeks off) starting in Week 5 of my cycle. Nolva for PCT (40/40/20/20)

this is what my cycle is going to consist of:

Week 1-4
500mg Test Cyp.
per week

Week 5-6
500mg Test Cyp per week
day 1&2= Clen @ 60mcg
day 3&4= Clen @ 80mcg
day 5&6= Clen @ 100mcg
day 7&8= Clen @ 120mcg
9&10= Clen @ 100mcg
11&12= Clen @ 80mcg
13&14= Clen @ 60mcg

Week 7
500mg Test Cyp.
day 1-7
Benadryl @ 50mg (or 100mg? ive heard differing opinions for the purpose of effectiveness)

Week 8
500mg Test Cyp.
Clen off
Benadryl off

Week 9&10
500mg Test Cyp per week
day 1&2= Clen @ 60mcg
day 3&4= Clen @ 80mcg
day 5&6= Clen @ 100mcg
day 7&8= Clen @ 120mcg
9&10= Clen @ 100mcg
11&12= Clen @ 80mcg
13&14= Clen @ 60mcg

Week 11
375mg Test Cyp.
(1st injection @ 250mg and 2nd injection of the week @ 125mg)
day 1-7
Benadryl @ 50mg (or 100mg? ive heard differing opinions for the purpose of effectiveness)

Week 12
250mg Test Cyp
Clen off
Benadryl off

Week 13-16
PCT
Nolva @ 40/40/20/20

That is the general idea that I have for my cycle. I have also seen that 10mg/week of Nolva while on my cycle will help with gyno and tenderness.. is this something good to do? My diet is clean and I think that this cycle will do me wonders for a first try. Im looking to gain some size and mainly cut.. I wanna see abs for the first time in my life! Any thoughts and comments will be much appreciated.
Cheers
Thanks

[dremen]

Hi im new to this site and was recommended here by a friend of mine.

I am 21, been training seriously for 3 years now and have done my research into gear. I am planning to run 500mg of Test Cyp for 12 weeks while at the same time running Clen for 8 weeks (2 weeks on 2 weeks off) starting in Week 5 of my cycle. Nolva for PCT (40/40/20/20)

this is what my cycle is going to consist of:

Week 1-4
500mg Test Cyp.
per week

Week 5-6
500mg Test Cyp per week
day 1&2= Clen @ 60mcg
day 3&4= Clen @ 80mcg
day 5&6= Clen @ 100mcg
day 7&8= Clen @ 120mcg
9&10= Clen @ 100mcg
11&12= Clen @ 80mcg
13&14= Clen @ 60mcg

Week 7
500mg Test Cyp.
day 1-7
Benadryl @ 50mg (or 100mg? ive heard differing opinions for the purpose of effectiveness)

Week 8
500mg Test Cyp.
Clen off
Benadryl off

Week 9&10
500mg Test Cyp per week
day 1&2= Clen @ 60mcg
day 3&4= Clen @ 80mcg
day 5&6= Clen @ 100mcg
day 7&8= Clen @ 120mcg
9&10= Clen @ 100mcg
11&12= Clen @ 80mcg
13&14= Clen @ 60mcg

Week 11
375mg Test Cyp.
(1st injection @ 250mg and 2nd injection of the week @ 125mg)
day 1-7
Benadryl @ 50mg (or 100mg? ive heard differing opinions for the purpose of effectiveness)

Week 12
250mg Test Cyp
Clen off
Benadryl off

Week 13-16
PCT
Nolva @ 40/40/20/20

That is the general idea that I have for my cycle. I have also seen that 10mg/week of Nolva while on my cycle will help with gyno and tenderness.. is this something good to do? My diet is clean and I think that this cycle will do me wonders for a first try. Im looking to gain some size and mainly cut.. I wanna see abs for the first time in my life! Any thoughts and comments will be much appreciated.
Cheers
Thanks

Bro no need for clen for a first timer IMHO and no need to run nolva during cycle unless you feel/see signs of gyno. Cough syrup bro....lol, cmon man no need for that either...lol

Keep it simple man 500mg/ew 1-12 followed by nolva @40mg/ed 14-17 then 20mg/ed 17-18.

[inxs]

What's with the cough syrup bro !

[rickyboy36]

What cough syrup are you guys reffering to?There isnt any(unless he edited it..??)..benadryl has Ketotifen(or its generic version) and is used for the purpose up upregulating the beta receptors from using clen.

But why clen in the first place???Are you dieting?If not,do not use it.You need a surplus of calories to grow.

Please show us your diet.

[gregdoucette]

What week u going to do nolva starting at 40 and are u gonna do 40 a day or 40 a week. looks like u mentioned 10 a week while on.

[Delt King]

No need to run nolva while on cycle unless you start feeling a problem coming on.
Clen shouldn't be ramped up but not down on 2 weeks on 2 weeks off. Many here will run it straight through upping 20 every week.
Benadryl (Diphenhydramine Hydrochloride) i'd run every night 50mg before bed.
I'm also assuming that this is a cut otherwise you're wasting your time with clen.

[Marc]

Yeah thanks guys... this cycle is mainly for cutting... but I do wanna keep and gain some size from the test. The benadryl, like Rickyboy said, is for upregulating the beta receptors from being on clen. My diet is gonna be high protein low carbs so as to avoid unnecessary or unwanted excess weight gain.

@Delt King: "Clen shouldn't be ramped up but not down on 2 weeks on 2 weeks off. Many here will run it straight through upping 20 every week." Can you explain this a little more to me? Im a bit confused at what you mean by this.. but I want some more insight because this seems interesting.

@GregDoucette:
I am going to start the Nolva @ 40mgs/day on the Monday of week 13 and on the monday of week 15 I will come down to 20mgs/day for another 2 weeks. I am getting my FINAL test cyp shot either on the thursday or friday of week 12, so I figured id start the PCT on the monday because thats when my next shot would have been anyways.. is this good? or should I start the PCT on the same day as my last injection?

I appreciate all the help guys.. Im glad I came to this site because you guys know your stuff.

[Delt King]

Day 1 and 2 20
Day 3 and 4 40
Day 5 and 6 60
Day 7 and 8 80
Day 9 and 10 100
Day 11 to 14 120
then off for two weeks

[Marc]

oh okay... perfect.. so then Im guessing I can start a little higher and depending whether or not I can handle it i can ramp up to 140? Like start of day 1&2 with 40mcg and end on day 11-14 with 140mcg? Cause I have done alot of reading and the dosage of clen is about what you can handle... but I probably will stick with what you have posted here... thanks for the help Delt King

[Marc]

Starting April 1st... will update with photos and info after im done the cycle.. thanks again for everyone's opinion...