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    Quote Originally Posted by ubcpower View Post
    you would be suprised, natty athletes (the ones i know atleast) will tend to over think the 'supplement' side of things and buy every natural thermo, bcaa, no2...etc under the sun.
    Yup, but it doesn't really do them any good. I don't think I could justify spending even a fraction of what some people do. Tanning minutes, protan and oil, posing suit, razor, entry fees, accomodation and maybe a bit of extra money because the diet changes. That's it for me. Probably like $300-500.
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    The above would be way more than 300. just 1 contest alone will run you over 150$ just in entry fees. 250$ in accomodations for 2 nights. You're already at 400. tanning is an easy 100$. protan, oil, suit, well over 500$.

    Still way cheaper than being in any other typical sport. Oh, and about spending 80$ a week to have someone just train you...If you're just starting out and you need that type of help, the stepping on stage should not be the immediate goal. You'll end up being the "clueless competitor"
    see: http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/fo...ad.php?t=17519

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    Nope. OPA shows have a membership fee and most of the natural shows have a drug testing fee but I've never spent 150. Only need one night accomodation (or none depending on the location) because the shows tend to be within a short driving distance. It's cheap if you want it to be. I did my first show in University on a nothing budget. Second show I did I bought a whole bunch of tickets in advance when they cost less and sold them for a profit at the show.

    Quote Originally Posted by steve_d View Post
    The above would be way more than 300. just 1 contest alone will run you over 150$ just in entry fees. 250$ in accomodations for 2 nights. You're already at 400. tanning is an easy 100$. protan, oil, suit, well over 500$.

    Still way cheaper than being in any other typical sport. Oh, and about spending 80$ a week to have someone just train you...If you're just starting out and you need that type of help, the stepping on stage should not be the immediate goal. You'll end up being the "clueless competitor"
    see: http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/fo...ad.php?t=17519
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    ehehe, I don't mind the hijack, you guys seems a fun bunch here : )

    yeah my test is on the way, I know I should ideally include this in the mix. I'm 3wks in right now and feelin no sides with legit gear.

    yeah, I'm apparently at 7.3%, my typo. I got my scan yesterday a the trainer facility.

    There is a class for the 143lbs and less (bantham division) which I could enter.

    Obviously I know how to train and eat, but I know little to nothing about contest prep and posing.

    I met again with him today and he's a nice guy, pretty knowledgeable, he competed. I'm not arguying about his credentials, nor his approach. In fact he want to keep me conditionned at 7-8.5% and slowly add muscles till 15-16wks out.

    anyway, the question I had was for how long before the show, and how frequent do you think you need a prep coach? I have intensity in the gym and require little hand-holding... and at 80$ per session, I can do without. I guess I would need help setting my training initially, but then I could slack down on the frequency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O-Train View Post
    Nope. OPA shows have a membership fee and most of the natural shows have a drug testing fee but I've never spent 150. Only need one night accomodation (or none depending on the location) because the shows tend to be within a short driving distance. It's cheap if you want it to be. I did my first show in University on a nothing budget. Second show I did I bought a whole bunch of tickets in advance when they cost less and sold them for a profit at the show.

    membership = 80$
    entry fee = 80$

    total > 150

    maybe it was cheaper back then.

    Also, I suppose if you live near toronto you might get by with 1 or none nights at the hotel. and less in gas / travel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_d View Post
    membership = 80$
    entry fee = 80$

    total > 150

    maybe it was cheaper back then.

    Also, I suppose if you live near toronto you might get by with 1 or none nights at the hotel. and less in gas / travel.
    I don't remember it being so much, seems like a lot for one show. Especially considering what they charge everyone to watch.

    To the OP. It really depends on exactly what you need/are looking for. Like for posing I just borrowed a posing video from someone. I think it was called "Perfect Posing" or something similar. If you really look for what you want to learn you'll probably be able to find out a whole lot on your own. Without spending a ton of money. It won't take the place of an experienced trainer/prep coach but it won't cost nearly as much either.

    Shop around with the guys here who do contest prep. Not sure if anyone mentioned Praetorian but he would be a good choice. It sounds like that would be the best bang for your buck.
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    excellent advice, I'll take the time to PM him tomorrow

    I heard about that video, I'll look into it

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    I`ve got some old weider wall charts I can send you. Let me know if you`re interested! The guy is kinda jacked, and is wearing a leopard trunk with a shoulder trap that goes over just one shoulder like the strong guys in the circus wear.
    If consumer magazine claims to know what consumers want, how come they`re still a magazine?

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    rolf, that would bring us back to some old eugene sandow's picture !

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    If you like the guy who you want to be your coach, make him an offer... if 3 grand is your "budget" tell him thats what you've got to spend, and ask him if he will train you for that... you might want to only see him once a week or once every 2 weeks for the personal training at the beginning, which will keep the cost down a bit, and around 16 weeks out kick it up a bit. (i mean if he gives you programming, you can train on your own if you have been for 10 yrs already... right?) stick to your own gym for the first few months then kick it up and train at his gym at the end.
    Id be concerned about anyone trying to keep you at 7% bf while bulking though... but then again, I guess it might not be inpossible.


 
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