Just putting this out there.

[kevin49]

i've never noticed any difference in training while taking tribulus other than libido.

[Andre Gregoire]

I totally agree with the original poster. Most pro-hormones are just half-assed versions of steroids anyway. They will cause you more side effects and problems than real gear. If you want to take that shit just take real gear and avoid many of the side effects and get real results. Then you have to compete with the big boys though.

Even d-aspartic acid is on my grey list right now. I have decided not to try it out even if it only raises natural test levels to high normal range.