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    [QUOTE=Ritch;382501]although I will likely give this supp a try in the future, I just find it weird where it lists the positive sides like, may increase strength, may increase stamina... Then it`s stated that the strength gains and weight gains were on par with 1Ad... That`s kinda pushing it. If it were that close to 1AD, this stuff would be off the shelves before they have time to take them out of the boxes.

    This is obviously not directed towards you JP, but how the product is advertised.[/QUOTE]

    no worries i know its not. :-)

    did you know superdrol (wich it just mythlyated masteron) is still legal? (atleast in US right now)
    only rees it was pulled was due topressure from FDA, but if you look in the books its tachnicly still legal.
    (wich BLOWS MY MIND)

    my point is it would take time to get banned and they would have to find a reez to do so.
    natadrol being plant based and extracted... well not sure what there excuse is gonna be. ban the whoel plant with no data on bad side effects?
    id tell them how about thos f-king cans lined with cancer causeing plastics that somhow are still on shelves while alot of other countrys have already banned that plastic in food based uses.
    damin FDA piss me the f off.

    dam i got methyl-mast "aka superdrol/beastdrol" on route now acually lol

    I am likeing the natadrol BUT i must say that beastdrol/methyl-mast, is stronger BUT it also has ALOT more sides.
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    [QUOTE=jshort;382613]Thanks JP. Now I can take the pleasure to analyze it and ask questions.

    I don't necessarily expect you to be able to answer any of the following per say, but these were some questions and observations that popped into my head as I was reviewing the ingredient profile;

    1) Regarding the ingredient "Tinospora Cordifolia - Ethanolic Extract", LG says the following

    "[B]Acts like an androgen in key tissues[/B]"?

    Based on the description LG has given, I'm assuming that they have based they're results on this study: [url]http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=21498249[/url]

    However in the above study the scientists involved concluded that it was successful in affecting androgen receptors in the prostate only (which is not good btw). Hence how do you know that its effective in tissues such as muscle and bone?

    2) I couldn't find any literature for Curculigo Orchiodes. LG refers to the study "Effect of Curculigo orchioides rhizomes on sexual behaviour of male rats." Fitoterapia. 78.7-8 (2007)", which I was unable to obtain.
    [B][COLOR="Red"]couple links: [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17643866[/url] [url]http://www.google.ca/search?q=Curculigo+orchioides+rhizomes+&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GBfficial&client=firefox-a[/url]
    [url]http://www.mdidea.com/products/proper/proper075research.html[/url][/COLOR][/B]

    I saw elsewhere that someone claimed that scientists concluded (perhaps the ones from the above study) that this ingredient caused the reproductive organs to grow and act like testosterone. Is this what LG is basing the statement "[B]Still, the water based extract was shown in the literature to have potent sexual and anabolic effects[/B]"?

    3) Regarding Ketosterones, the only potential positive thing about this ingredient is that its a sterol which are known to lower cholesterol. If there is a study which demonstrates any of its anabolic effects, I'd be happy to see it.

    4) Regarding the word "pSARM'', did LG science invent this term?

    [COLOR="Red"][B]Psarm stands for- phytoSARM : [url]http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&q=phytoSARM&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=[/url]
    [/B][/COLOR]
    The evidence for the ingredient Hibiscus Rosa-Sinesis seems to be based on this study: [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17688164[/url].

    The results showed that rats who consumed this ingredient for 8 weeks, put on weight in their various organs, however I didn't read of anything regarding muscle mass.[/QUOTE]


    if you do your own research on each of the ingredients in natadrol you can see it would help muscle growth . im a busy person i don't mind helping others out but "and no offence" spoonfeeding info that could EASLY be searched I will not do, but your questions seem fishy considering it takes me seconds to look up each thing you asked about on somthing as basic as google for eg.
    I havent answerd all your questions fully as 5 min of reading would fullfill that.
    sorry if i come across as an a-hole but its like asking "can i drink my winny" do a 1 min search you will know.

    you work for another supp company right?
    If i must ill put up all i need look into what comp your with, but i really dont want to.

    Iv wasted enuff time already.
    not sure what your up to but an ... anyway have a good day.
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    For what its worth, most supplement products aren't very well verified by scientific research. If customers for Natadrol claim that it works, than I suppose thats all that matters.

    I don't work for another supplement company, but I do enjoy debating with those who have a thick enough skin (ie don't take personal offenses). If you think you have the time and can respond to my criticisms in an objective manner, than I'd be more than happy to comment on your rebuttal to my review. On the other hand, I know LG science sponsors this forum so it can advertise its products in a positive light. Hence no offense taken should you choose otherwise.


 
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