here it is!
here it is!
Good routine , great build, shit music. You have a dramatic build, worthy of dramatic music. It's hard for me to be objective because I hate that mindless droning shit BUT even still it's not dramatic. There is no climax or build up to each pose. It's that garbage one would here in a club while looking at pussy, not a massive bodybuilder. The music doesn't say I lift heavy weights. I don't what it says but IMO it doesn't give your body credit for what it is. You are thick as ****, choose some music that reflects that. Your whole package was BIG, bring some BIG music next time. Not what you like , what compliments your body. But again, let me congratulate you on your hard work. Nothing missing IMO !Originally Posted by steve_d
Now that i've had time to review pics and videos. I can say with certainty that I had 4th place beat. I had a ton of people tell me that at the show but it's hard to tell until you can see comparisons. But all in all it was a great showing for my first Nat's and I walked away as the new Mutant sponsored athlete, so I'm very happy how it all went down.
you can't say anything with certainty from pictures or videos - at least unless you were standing side by side with him in the pics and vids. I don't remember, but was he (or the 5th place guy) at least in your group during the initial comparisons? It's the only way to really know. I was crazy impressed with Rob 4.0 - like a totally new you from sudbury and then more recently provincials. But I dunno - that top 5 lineup was pretty insane. the 4th and 5th weren't even that far off larry tony and greg.
Even still, in most classes the 6th place finisher is better than the 5th place finisher. So I don't doubt for a second you could have been properly placed higher. 6th means you won the 2nd callout. generally its tough to get the first call out perfectly accurate. In a perfect world, with unlimited time, the 6th place would then be compared with the lower half of the first call out. Often this would change placings. This should only be used as added fuel. Next time at nationals you should be coming home with a top 3 finish - or better.
Ange just pointed something I completely forgot about and probably a good reason to be bummed about coming 6th...This means you need to requalify. Oh well, like I said - overall mr. ontario is a pretty fun title to have before moving to bigger things!
Last edited by steve_d; 01-09-2012 at 07:18 AM.
Funny Andre, I didn't know that height was a critiria for a pro card, lol.
Did I ever say it was? lol
Andre, I'm commenting on the pic you posted of me (Larry) and Chris implying he deserved the pro card more than me. Aside from being taller, I don't see how you can make such a claim, sorry.
Larry, with all due respect... the great thing about this sport is that everyone is entitled to an opinion... and my opinion is that Chris looks way more like a 'pro' bodybuilder than you do... that's only my 2 cents from the peanut gallery lol
Fair enough Andre.
I'm sorry, but I have to jump in here (everyone has a right to an opinion right?) ... Opinions aren't always just opinions. They can be right and they can be wrong. For example, if it was my opinion that 5 year olds are on average taller than 7 years olds, I would be wrong. Even if that opinion was based on the fact that I know some tall 5 year olds.
All this to say that there is no way that if someone were to know the criteria for judging a bodybuilding show they would say chris looks more like a pro than larry. It was not even close to be honest, and not 1 judge would have said otherwise. I know you like Chris from the various posts promoting him as a bodybuilder - and perhaps he has potential to be a pro with improvements in the right areas, but the more you post about how chris deserved to win, etc, the more you start seeming you don't know what the judging criteria actually is.
Bodybuilding is subjective - yes, I can accept that, however there is a fair amount of objectivity involved in this sport as a judged sport. it isn't just a matter of striclty preference of (for example) what one might favor in a bodybuilder. Often you will see a picture of two guys - one huge and ripped, the other smaller and ripped. You'll get people who detest the look of a huge bodybuilder. Just the other day, I saw a pic on facebook of fouad - 2011 vs. 2001 or something. Started seeing comments of 'i prefer the 2001 version'... doesn't mean some judges can say he was a better bodybuilder in 2001. (well, they can say it, but they'd be wrong).
So anyway, I don't usually voice myself on people's opinions, but as I've judged some shows, I had to pipe up. I hope that you understand why he didn't win, and you can accept the decisions made.
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