Thanks for all the input everyone. The "toned" look is more or less what I am going for here, so this sounds like a good choice once again.

Has anyone tried Trib or any other over the counter product to help bump their libido while on var? This is the most common problem I am reading while taking var, libido loss.

Also I was thinking of throwing in some liv52 just for the extra liver protection, is there anything better or different OTC that you guys would recommend before using Liv52?