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    Default Another Newbie's First Cycle

    Hey all, stumbled upon this forum about a week and a half ago and have been soaking in as much information as I can. I have been really impressed with the quality of responses and type of people on this forum, makes me yet again proud to be Canadian!
    I am planning to start my first cycle in a few months once I finish cutting my BF down to <15%.

    Here are my stats: 30 years old, 6`1, 250lbs, approx 29% BF. Eating 90% clean at about 2200cal/day, carb cycling, lifting 5 days/week, and doing 60mins fasted cardio/day.

    This was my plan so far (completely open to suggestions):
    Week 1-12: 500mg Test-E (250mg 2x/week)
    Week 4-8: 40mg Dbol
    Week 14: 40mg Nolva
    Week 15: 40mg Nolva
    Week 16: 20mg Nolva
    Week 17: 20mg Nolva

    A couple of questions....
    Should I be using an AI such as aromasin during the cycle?
    Is Nolva alone enough for PCT or should I use Clomid as well?

    I am a little paranoid about gyno during the cycle and loss of testicular function post-cycle (planning to have kids one day).

    - Mark

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    awesome idea to wait to start your cycle until u've cut ur bf in half, you might have less sides/issues on cycle if you are leaner and plus you'll feel a lot better.

    Many guys use dbol at the start of a cycle so that they get that big boost right at the start, your timing should give you some really decent strength gains.

    As for gyno, have the ai on hand and if you start to feel nipple pain then start using but again lower bf means lower chances of having this side....

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    As stated, AI only if needed. Novla is fine. What's the end goal, bulking?

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    The cycle looks bang on but like previously stated get your hands on some arimidex, or aromasin for an AI to keep estrogen under control. As for BF well yes it is high but i take it you dont want to wait to get it under control first so just keep an eye on gyno, blood pressure, cholestrol, etc.
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    I fully plan to get to 15% BF before starting. I would rather have my first cycle be as effective as possible with as few sides as possible. I've already come down from 310lbs to 250lbs so another 30-40 isn't a problem.

    My goal for this cycle is bulking, would like to add 20-25lbs lbm. I'm not worried about putting on too much fat during the bulking, I'm getting pretty good at taking that off. Ideally I would like to be about 230-240lbs at 10% BF. Not looking to ever compete so I don't need to get down into the really low BF numbers. Would like a visible six-pack though. My hats off to you guys that do compete and can get that peeled look, it must take an phenomenal amount of dedication. It's not the look I'm looking to get to though, or try to maintain.

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    After doing some more research I have decided to change out the Dbol for Tbol, fewer side effects. I might also change the timing to the first 4-6 weeks to kickstart the cycle.

    Is Letro ok to have on hand for an AI or would I be better off getting Aromisin? Also, how much of it would you take if signs of gyno started to appear mid-cycle?

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    IMO stick with the Aromasin and welcome to the board nice to see a solid first cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark6r View Post
    After doing some more research I have decided to change out the Dbol for Tbol, fewer side effects. I might also change the timing to the first 4-6 weeks to kickstart the cycle.

    Is Letro ok to have on hand for an AI or would I be better off getting Aromisin? Also, how much of it would you take if signs of gyno started to appear mid-cycle?
    I LOVE oral turinabol. I've used Dbol multiple times, and although the weight and strength gains are good I just feel bloated and chunky. With Tbol, I had great gains and more of what seemed like quality/dense muscle.

    I started with 40mg ED split into two doses then moved onto 60mg ED split into three doses (prob not necessary, caps were 20's) and that worked awesome.


 

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