Quote Originally Posted by ironwill View Post
Holy crap!!! 500 mg of test /week and a bit of anavar, some clen and 50 mg eod of winny the last weeks is all one needs, Maybe gh if older and necessary.....
Several hundred total cycle if not including gh....
Get someone like Delt king, prae or sean summers to help you out, they wont be near the cost your other trainer quoted you and probably do a better job!!!!
Thanks IW...agreed...its funny how many guys rely on large amounts of gear thinking that will make the difference when doing a show. This couldnt be further from the truth. You can use tonnes of gear if you like and waste your money but it wont help you...diet, training, and proper fine tuning will make the difference between top 5 and not placing. For someone doing a show for the first time...500mg test weekly, some clen, T3, and some winny the last 4 weeks...gh if affordable only. Keep it simple...
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FYI Here is a sample National level cycle:

week 1-8 test C 1000mg weekly
week 1-8 deca 600mg weekly
week 9-16 test E 1000mg weekly
week 9-16 EQ 600mg weekly
week 9-16 tren ace 75mg EOD
week 11-16 winny 50mg ED
week 1-16 clen, T3, GH (2-4iu ED)