OK so Coleman got another 50 pounds,how deep lol?Its just a merry go round.Many people have been of the opinion that benching is a lousy way to build the chest.How man guys wrecked their shoulders benching heavy?Legions.While we are at it,Marc Gagne,the guy that owns Gagne Fitness,trained with Arnold and Franco around 83.Franco was the powerlifter,Arnold definitely NOT.I bet it was Westside that started that story.Marc competed at 265,never uses heavy weights and he's still huge at 53.